Is the return of Israel to the promised land a Contemporary fulfilment of bible prophecy?
The nation of Israel was re-established in 1948. As the bible is a book of God's relationship with Israel, I would have thought it would have something to say about this
Public Comments
1. How many times are you going to ask?
2. Some say it was a fulfillment of some OT prophecies, though I do not personally believe it is a fulfillment in any way.
Just a people group getting a country back.
3. no
4. I tend to think not, for the temple mount is still occupied by Islam
5. I suspect it has more to do with the 1946 bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem by the Zionist terrorists in Irgun. I wouldn't think that sort of thing would be necessary for a legitimate prophecy.
6. No.
Tell you what: if I 'prophesy" that tomorrow I will go to the grocery store, and then tomorrow I go to the grocery store mainly because I want to "fulfill" the prophecy I made yesterday, is that "fulfillment of prophecy?" Same thing.
Peace.
7. It did in the parable of the fig tree in Matt 24.
Matthew 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
The fig tree is national Israel.
8. No, Man uses Prophesy to meet his own Desires. These People as you know, are from Europe and they Chose the Jewish Religion in 800 AD, Just keep up these Questions and maybe People in CUFI will go away quietly in shame for their Manipulation of Scriptural Passages. You also probably know that the land was promised after WWI in the Conference at Balfour (A Rothschild) to turn the land over to the Jewish people in Europe to watch over the Suez Canal and Oil interests Of course the Religious Angle was tremendously appealing to those people starry eyed of the New "Exodus"
Short History below for those who care to read
In1836 Rabbi Kalisher approached the Rothschild family to fund the establishment of Israel. They were not interested. The French built the Suez Canal but the Egyptian Pasha was in need of money so they wanted to sell their shares of the Suez Canal. The French wanted to buy all the shares but the Egyptian didn’t want a monopoly. The French wanted to split the British Empire in half by controlling the Canal. British PM Disraeli, a converted Christian from the Jewish faith, was friends with Rothschild and got a loan to buy up the Egyptian shares. He was mindful of what a French controlled Suez could mean to the British Empire.
In 1859 the first oil well was drilled in Titusville, Pennsylvania and construction of the Suez Canal began. In 1869 the Suez Canal was completed. In 1870 John D. Rockefeller formed Standard Oil. In 1873 the Baku oil region was opened for development and the Nobels entered the Russian oil business. In 1882 Edmond de Rothschild (an oil expert) visit Israel.
In 1885 Royal Dutch discovers oil in Sumatra in the East Indies(modern Indonesia) and the Rothschilds enter the Russian oil business. In 1886 the Rothschilds start their own oil company BNITO. In 1888 the Rothschilds establish oil importing/distribution company.
The "Shell" Transport and Trading Company (the quotation marks were part of the legal name) was a British company, founded in 1897 by Marcus Samuel and his brother Samuel Samuel.[3] Initially the Company commissioned eight oil tankers for the purposes of transporting oil.[6]
The origin of the brand name Shell is linked to the origins of The Shell Transport and Trading Company.[10] In 1833, the founder's father, also Marcus Samuel, founded an import business to sell seashells to London collectors. When collecting seashell specimens in the Caspian Sea area in 1892, the younger Samuel realized there was potential in exporting lamp oil from the region and commissioned the world's first purpose-built oil tanker, the Murex (Latin for a type of snail shell), to enter this market; by 1907 the company had a fleet. Although for several decades the company had a refinery at Shell Haven on the Thames, there is no evidence of this having provided the name.
With their banking connections the Rothschilds would transport their Russian oil to the Far East and British India. The Rothschilds were major investors in Shell Oil Company. The Suez Canal was crucial to Shell for exporting kerosene oil to Asia e.g. British India.
In 1891 Rothschilds/Samuel oil contract began. In 1892 Samuel’s Shell Oil Murex sails through the Suez Canal. A year later Shell Oil add 10 more tankers to the fleet. In 1893 Alphonse de Rothschild meets with Standard Oil to discuss cartel.
In 1896 Captain Alfred Dreyfus is falsely accused of espionage in France. Theodore Hertzel begins the Zionist campaign to create Israel.
Rothschild also wanted to protect their oil interests but they needed a political and military watchdog over the Suez Canal and the State of Israel was created. They wanted a militant and battle hardened Israel and no pushovers.
9. I somehow doubt it.
10. No. Israel was set up a few years after the end of world war 2.
The allied powers were all like "ohhhh lets give the Jews there own country because they suffered so much discrimination and went to concentration camps"
Jews: "yeah alright then, we'll steal this bit of land here"
Allies: "why do you want the desert?"
Jews: "the Bible says we can have this land"
Allies: "alright then, you can have your 'promised land' just cos your fairy tale book says so"
Jews: "Palestinians, get out. We own this land now. Actually that's a bit harsh, we'll give you this small bit but we'll trap you in like a prison by building a massive wall around it."
Palestinians: "wtf?"
So you see, the re-establishment of Israel wasn't anything to do with a Bible prophecy. It was just the allied powers letting the Jews have that land because it's in the Bible and they thought "if it makes them happy..."
11. It started the End Times clock and the Bible did say something about it.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
To understand what it is talking about you have to read the whole chapter.
12. WellIs that what you are looking for?
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13. rhhesk ,
Dear Sir .. Personally , What little I do know is that many Are doing All they can NOW to
Beg money from Many Churches , And People to go to Israel .. I feel that this is WRONG ..
I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO ASHAMED AT SUCH IGNORANT PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT TO
DO ALL THEY CAN TO SEE SUCH JEWISH PEOPLE GET BACK TO ISRAEL ... FOR GODS
WORD CLEARLY DECLARES THAT GOD WILL BRING THEM THAT HAVE BEEN
SCATTERED FROM ISRAEL BACK OUT FROM WITCH CRAFT , AND THE WORSHIPING OF
IDOLS OF STONE AND WOOD , BACK INTO ISRAEL .... THIS TO ME MEANS THAT GOD ,
WILL DO THIS , AND JUST BECAUSE IT STATES THAT HE WILL BRING THEM OUT FROM
SERVING IDOLS TO ME DOES NOT MEAN THAT ALL WILL BE COMMING OUT FROM IDOL
WORSHIP , ONLY THEM THAT CHOOSE TO COME OUT HE WILL BRING BACK HOME TO
ISRAEL .. ALL OTHERS WILL STRAIGHT UP BE CURSED AS SOME THAT HAVE BEEN
BROUGHTEN BACK WITH THE HELP OF MEN .. I HAVE A FEELING THAT NOT ALL
BROUGHT BACK BY MEN ARE ALL GODLY .. BUT GOD KNOWS .. AND SHAME ON THOSE
THAT THINK THAT THEY ARE DOING WHAT SEEMS TO BE RIGHT IN THEIR OWN EYES .. I
STATE THIS FOR THEY ARE IGNORANT TO PUT UPON THEMSELVES , YET I FEEL IT IS
A MONEY DEAL , OF WHICH THESE ARE PROFITING FROM BESIDES .. WM ..