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Dear Atheist, how do you respond to claims of bible prophecy? What do you reply to that?

Christians can claim bible is true because of bible prophecy and they can open up Scriptures and etc.

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1. Bible prophecies are exactly the same as Nostradamus' prophecies, they are so vague that you can put virtually any spin on them to make them appear to have come true. It proves nothing.

2. "bible is true because of bible prophecy..."


You can't use the bible to prove the bible. If that were the case, I could prove that Darth Vader exists if the only book I use is Star Wars.

3. Sure, when you write something vague enough, you can pretty much jam anything into it that you like.
This is how prognostication and other such scams work.

4. "how do you respond to claims of bible prophecy?"

Biblical prophecy is left intentionally vague, so that believers of Christianity can see them as 'fulfilled'. Show me any prophecy in the Bible, and I'd bet I can show you at least two historical occurrences that could have 'fulfilled' it.

5. I don't respond to any questions pertaining to prophecies, they are either very vague or self-fulfilling.

6. The only specific prophecies are the ones made after the event. There's plenty of specific prophecies in the OT, but funnily enough the oldest copy of the OT that we have goes back to the 2nd century BC, at best. All the prophecies, like the fall of Babylon, were probably made after the event. Any prophecy definitely made before the event is pretty vague about what the "event" is.

7. It's easy to write about a "prophecy" after it happens or write it so vague, that it could mean anything.

8. People didnt believe Jesus when He performed miracles in front of their eyes. Where does that leave American pop culture atheists concerning Biblical prophesy?

2 Thess 2
9The coming of the lawless one(anti Christ) will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, 10and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They(unbelievers) perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

God bless you.

9. The Bible verifies itself. If I write a book, can I verify my own prophecies and hold them to the same standard?

10. It has too many scientific errors,
e.g.

ADAM (PBUH), THE FIRST MAN ON EARTH, LIVED 5,800 YEARS AGO

As per the genealogy of Jesus Christ given in the Bible, from Jesus through Abraham (pbuh) to the first man on earth i.e. Adam (pbuh), Adam appeared on the earth approximately 5800 years ago:

1948 years between Adam (pbuh) and Abraham (pbuh)
Approximately 1800 years between Abraham (pbuh) and Jesus (pbuh)
2000 years from Jesus (pbuh) till today
These figures are further confused by the fact that the Jewish calendar is currently on or about 5800 years old.

There is sufficient evidence from archaeological and anthropological sources to suggest that the first human being on earth was present tens of thousands of years ago and not merely 5,800 years ago as is suggested by the Bible.

11. I'm Cristian;
atheists are part of Bible prophesy. What Jesus said about the days of the end. As well as Revelation. They are satanist in disguised.

12. If you write your prophecy ambiguous enough and give it a 2000 year window of opportunity, it will come true.

13. The only ones they can claim have come true are the ones that are so general that they've been fulfilled thousands of times or that were "fulfilled" by having later authors claim fulfillment in their own texts.

14. Biblical prophecies are similar to those of the Delphic Oracle, Nostradamus, etc. No real "prophecies" exist, because prophecies are words of gods, and gods do not exist. The people who claim prophecies of their favorite source come true are the same as men who shoot arrows at a wall and then paint bullseyes around them after they land. This routine is so transparent it deceives no one, unless he wants to be deceived.

15. lol yes we do don't we.....
but i predict in 10,000 years time, hogwarts will be deemed a real place.
And there will be an up rise of vampire covered in glitter.... i can claim this because i have all the books and watched all the films :)....... ..........
well it could happen! i mean the bible was wrote 500 some years after the death of Jesus by a group of power hungry men who hated women and look where that book lead us!

16. Bible prophecy was soon to be fulfilled at the writing of all New Testament letters. When Jesus' disciples asked Him about His coming and end of the age, people fail to realize these two were linked together, and Jesus' especially linked His return to the destruction of Jerusalem. So all Bible prophecy was fulfilled at this time, according to Luke 21:20-22:

“When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written."

Daniel 9 alludes to this being the time in which all vision and prophecy would be sealed... known as Daniel's 70th week.

There is no Bible prophecy left to be revealed, and I marvel that people still see the Bible letters as future instead of history. If the Bible were any other book, found in an archaeological dig, everyone would read it as history, and understand that it was recording impending events that to us, already happened.

'Audience Relevance' is not applied to Bible text, which is quite a great mystery. It's the only book I know of that disregards that. As an example, if you discovered ancient text that said "in a little while, the king will visit, and he won't tarry." -- would you look up to see him traveling to you at that moment? Or would you understand that the visit already took place because "in a little while" pertained to the writer's time?

17. They aren't prophecies. If there was a prophecy in the bible that said that on the 31st of December, 2011, an Earthquake will send California to the bottom of the Pacific, and then this New Year's Eve that actually happens, then I'm officially impressed.
But they are not like that. All holy book prophecies fall into one of a few categories I'll sum them up just to illustrate the point.

1. Vague. The most common kind. Most prophecies in the bible are vague enough that they can be applied to a lot of things, and are made to fit an actual event AFTER THE FACT. It's not a prediction if it's only good once the event has come to pass.
Humans are good at making data fit preconceived conclusions. I personally did an experiment in my freshman year. We took a biblical prophecy from the New Testament, and 6 disasters/terrible events I think we had 9/11, Katrina, Holocaust, the Great Fire of London in 1666, the fall of the Roman Empire and there was one other one I can't remember. So we would ask people do you think this prophecy fits this event? Now the prophecy was the same each time, but the event was randomly chosen from 6 and our sample size was about 30 people. So statistically only 5 people should say it fits the prophecy. It was more like 25.

Self-fulfilling. Israel is a good example of this. People will actually stage the outcome of the prophecy, because the prophecy said they would. Like the Jews returning to Israel. They said that is prophecy being fulfilling, yeah because they are going out of their way to fulfil it. It cannot be an event that can be staged.

Generic. This is predictions that are mundane, like me predicting the sun will rise in the East tomorrow. Most predictions in the bible are about some war or some famine, well those have been pretty much the two most major constants in human history. There has ALWAYS been war and famine, so predicting war and famine is like predicting a sun rise.

Haven't happened yet. This one really amazes me. People have pointed to prophecies in the bible and said this hasn't happened yet, but it will. In other words, that's proof of nothing.

18. The Roman Emperor Constantine produced the bible and he was a pagan not god! He took the Jewish religion and basing it on the Mithras religion, organized it into Christianity and then into the Holly Roman Catholic Church!! Not in Israel or any of the countries of supposed origin but entirely ITALIAN!

Not one word of it is contemporary with the period and was not written until several hundred years after the period the story is set in!! How did the apostles write their books more than a hundred years after they would have been dead?

What a wonder full disinformation and deception campaign he waged against his Jewish enemies by turning them into his invented Christianity - so good in fact that Christians are still following the deception to this day!

The Harry Potter books used the same writing tricks!

19. They are so wide open for interpitation that you can make them fit almost any situation.
Even the people that did into Nostradamus' work, can come up with several different meanings.
A great storm will divide the people... Southern states or Haiti? Pick one and run with it.

20. To what "prophecy" are you referring? I'm not aware of any.