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Is there any scientific of a so called "doomsday" to this 2012 prophecy?

I have been hearing all about this lately. I have heard the Mayan version. They never specifically say the world will end, they just end their calender for a reason I forget. Then I heard the biblical version. I watched a show on the history channel on decoding th bible. It said in 2012 a meteor will fall but it will be crushed. Then my friend said that a meteor is just supposed to come and hit us. I know that there is a "Winter Solstice" but will that do anything bad at all? Occurrences like this must have happen in the earths history before.

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1. The Mayan Long Count calendar reaches the end of a cycle on 21st December 2012. And that's all. There is nothing remotely scientific about any of the prophesies for this date. There is no known large object on a collision course with Earth. A "Winter Solstice" occurs on or about this date every year and invariably passes by without incident.

2. There is absolutely no scientific basis to any of those ideas. I will not dignify them by calling them theories. A. The Mayan calender was just a calendar, used for predicting the best times of the year for growing crops. It is not a particularly accurate one, despite some of the claims made for it. B. "Decoding" the Bible? Who said it was coded in the first place? Only those who set about "decoding" it (and sell lots of books and TV shows). C. We cannot predict the arrival of meteors, except in very general terms such as the Perseid's and Leonid's, etc. D. The winter solstice occurs every year on or about the 22nd December, and is merely the day that marks beginning of the lengthening of days and a sign that winter will eventually fade into spring. I wish this could be posted as a "sticky" to prevent the same question being asked over and over again.

3. There are two solstices every year, one around 22 June, the other 21 December. Always have been, always will be. As for disaster / big change in 2012, everthing they say is either a lie or it is a distortion of a very few facts. Either that or the people behind it are gibbering loonies.

The Mayans did not predict anything. The prediction came from fake scholars who write sensational books based on next to no evidence. The Mayan 'long count of days' ends in 2012 because their primitive system of counting could not handle large numbers easily. That is the only reason.

Then along came some more frauds and added the idea of a rogue planet affecting Earth based on the silly speculations and lies of Zecharia Sitchin, He claimed a planet he called Nibiru orbits the Sun every 3600 years and soon would be in the inner solar system where it, or it's inhabitants could affect the Earth.

Another different planet which was supposed to be here in 2003 (Oops) was predicted by Nancy Lieder, who claims to be in telepathic contact with aliens from Zeta Reticuli. Sitchin disagreed with her.

The 2012 frauds have rolled these two planets into one because two different planets affecting Earth in the same few years would strain the credibility of all but the most gullible.

Needless to say astronomers have not detected these planets at all and if they were going to be here in 2012 they would have to be fairly near by now.

When one fraud sees what some other frauds say about 2012, he/she is likely to get on the bandwagon with something he/she cooked up for the same time from something few people know much about. Faked astronomy, so-called Bible codes, the I Ching, Indian Vedas, the length of somebody's nose etc. So it looks as if many people are saying the same thing from different lines of evidence. But they are just copying each other about the date and making the rest up. Most of it is stupid lies that are easily found to be false.

Planetary alignments - no. Planets will be scattered about the solar system in Dec. 2012 as usual. Oops

Galactic centre alignments - no. Not possible since the Earth orbits the Sun at an angle to the average plane of the galaxy. Oops

Magnetic poles will keep moving as they usually do. Changing over takes hundreds or thousands of years to happen, but it does happen..

Change in the poles of rotation. No. The rotation of the Earth is stabilised by the Moon.

Precession of the equinoxes will not stop or change direction or the rate it happens now or in 2012.

Photon belt - It's supposed to be round the '7 Sisters' star cluster. Our
solar system is heading away from them. Oops (It does not exist anyway.)

Some prophecies

The Book of Revelation is unintelligible. Not a single prophecy based on it has happened despite the fevered claims of the idiot zealots and fakes who infest the fringes of Christianity.

Nostradamus never predicted anything clearly or accurately and much of what he wrote is unintelligible too. Some editions of his verses contain faked material introduced by frauds. Oops.

The Bible Codes were shown to be fakes almost a dozen years ago. The fraud who invented them, Michael Drosnin, predicted nuclear war in 1997. Oops.

Edgar Cayce was a remarkable person but like all mystics when he tried to predict the future he fell flat on his face. By now much of California should have slid under the sea, according to him. Oops.

The disaster 2012 fraud does not survive elementary fact checking.


4. Scientists don't expect anything out of the ordinary to happen in the year 2012, or specifically on the date December 21, other than the solstice, which happens every year.

None of the "predicted" happenings for 2012 hold up under close scrutiny. "Planet X" and "Nibiru" simply don't exist. The Mayan calendar ends a cycle, but there were no predictions of the end of the world. The Sun doesn't line up with the galactic centre; it's 6 degrees off. No asteroids or comets are actually predicted to hit Earth.

All of this stuff was put together by crackpots in order to promote their books and TV shows, and shamelessly promoted by the History Channel. Don't take any of it seriously!

5. >Is there any scientific of a so called "doomsday" to this 2012 prophecy?

Is there any scientific what? I think you forgot a word in there between 'scientific' and 'of'. I don't know if I'll be able to answer your question properly without knowing what that missing word was supposed to be.

>I have heard the Mayan version. They never specifically say the world will end, they just end their calender for a reason I forget.

They don't actually end their calendar, they just end one cycle of it. It's kind of the same as us going from December 31, 1999 to January 1, 2000. It's basically just when the mayan 'zeroes' roll over.

>Then I heard the biblical version. I watched a show on the history channel on decoding th bible. It said in 2012 a meteor will fall but it will be crushed.

Sorry to break it to you, but the Bible Code nonsense is just that: Nonsense. No code of that sort has ever been used to accurately predict a major event, the 'codes' are only found AFTER the event actually happens, which should tell you that they were not real codes any more than any other random text is real codes.