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what does everyone think of the prophecy of the popes? just curious
wow, u could atleast look it up. are you that lazy?

here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes.

its a list made by saint malachy of 112 phrases. each were supposed to fit a pope that was yet o be elected. according to this there is only one more pope.

opinions?
wow you idiots. it was made by a saint hundreds of years ago. it wasn't made by a pope. god ur all a bunch of dumb asses.

Public Comments

1. what prophecies are you talking about????????

2. The Popes were corrupted by gold in the proxy of denying Greed.

3. The Bible has all kinds of warnings about the anti-Christ...changing God's Laws and times...putting himself in the place of God and exalting himself all while blaspheming the Most High YHWH. Are those the prophecies of the popes you are referring to?

4. The word pope is not in the bible??????

5. Pope's prophesy? I didnt know that he had made one unless it was when he said recently that no one but Catholics will go to heaven. Since that is not true he is not a prophet by the definition of a prophet....Deuteronomy 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

6. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/era-of-peace/message/306http://groups.yahoo.com/group/era-of-peace/message/306

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/era-of-peace/message/307http://groups.yahoo.com/group/era-of-peace/message/307

7. Sure, I will venture my opinion. As a Lutheran Christian, I am unbound by the rulings and authority of the Roman Catholic church. Therefore, I believe that I have an objective viewpoint unlike Catholics who may feel that it is their duty to defend the prophesies even though they may not even have an understanding of them. Such is often the case. Such is the case of the above answer by The Cub--- he sees something and blindly accepts it without doing any research. Why? Because it reaffirms his biased belief. The Cub--- may want to brush up on your Latin. labore in no way stands for eclipse (there are two solar eclipses every year by the way so using that was a stretch by the biblical scholar) it means labor. So a posting of a url stating that somewhere in the world was a Solar eclipse when Pope John Paul II was born is hardly evidence to support the prophesy of the popes. Or was that the only evidence that you had???

I believe that the psychological effect called confirmation bias (also called belief bias or selective thinking) applies to this topic. With it, one would tend to disregard opposing facts in an objective manner due to preconceived ideas. There would be a tendency to deny or ignore any evidence contrary to the preconception. Belief would tend to outweigh fact resulting in a pseudoscience similar to persons who believe in ghost or other paranormal phenomena even when evidence supports more natural explanations.

First of all, it is not known who wrote the prophesies. It was Arnold deWyon who attributed them to Saint Malachy in a 1590's book. Supposedly Malachy wrote the prophesies in 1139 and deWyon simply 'rediscovered them'. A biography of Malachy written by Bernard of Clairvauxis curiously fails to mention the prophesies. It reminds me of how the Shroud of Turin magically appeared in the 1500's.

Second the 'prophesies' are written in extremely vague, generalized, and obscure wording which relies upon assumption and interpretation to match it to a pope. It is very similar to todays daily newspaper horoscopes which could apply to anyone regardless of their astrological sign.

Third, there is a possibility that the last entry of Petrus Romanus may have been added to the list at a later date than the originals.

So let's take a look at what was written as the great 'prophesies':

"Of the half-moon"
"Intrepid faith"
"Flower of flowers"
"An angelic sheperd"

These are prophesies???

Let's look more closely and drop the Confirmation Bias...

"Soldier of war" was Pope Clement XIV- he had no military background and no major wars were fought during his reign.

Such examples are very common, Pope John Paul II was "Of the labor of the Sun"- historians have difficulty coming up with a connection other than he travelled like the Sun. Pope Benedict XVI was "Glory of the olive" yet has no association with the olive branch. Etc.

I conclude with the opinion that in order for these 'prophesies' to have any validity requires a broad stretch of the imagination. I believe that there may be an attempt to match the pope to the prophesy even to go as far as choosing the next pope by voting on which person best matches the vague prophesy in order to make the prophesy more compelling to the Catholic followers. This of course is a travesty by the church leaders but considering what the Roman church has done in the past (persecuting Copernicus and Galileo etc) it doesn't surprise me. If the voting on Pope's has been fair in the past, then why all of the anti-pope controversy???

I conclude my opinion with the thought that often the Roman Catholic church likes to preach the end-of-the-world to keep it's flock in fear and thus more obedient. Sometimes it's not enough that Jesus is returning to judge the wicked. Now there is a limit to the number of Popes and then the end of the world is here. At least until they decide differently of course by 'rediscovering' another paper.

I'm thankful that the Pope has no control over my life or my thoughts or the end of my world.